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Wireless Sets 4 Canucks and Yanks too I guess?

Johnny Canuck

Battalion Commander
Wireless Sets for Canucks

Well most of us are familiar with the W.S. No.18 and 19 series of WW2 radios, but there are many other versions that are associated with the above units that are rarely covered. The Canadian Electronics industry really came into it's own during WW2 with Northern Electric, RCA, Philco and Marconi all making major advances in RT technology during the war years.
One of the things I have found difficult is finding infomation on installations vehicle, tanks etc, aerials, ground stations and the ancillary equipment used to actually make these sets work.

So I'll start with the Wireless Sets and then move on to some info on the bits.

W.S. No.18 British

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General Description
The W.S. No.18 was the standard British Army man-pack radio set of WW2 for short range communication in forward areas between Battalion HQ and Company HQ. In Royal Artillery units it was used by Forward Observers to communicate with the infantry unit being supported.
First No.18 sets rolled off the production line of Pye in 1940 with total production of 76,000+ sets eventually produced.
The sets saw service in North Africa, ITO, PTO and ETO.
Frequency 6 - 9 MHz
R/T and CW.
Range
With an 11 foot rod aerial 10 miles Morse 5 miles Voice
With a 6 foot rod aerial 4 to 10 miles Morse 2 to 5 miles Voice
With a ground aerial 2 to 6 miles Morse 1 to 3 miles Voice
Aerials were the rod type about 12" long, with the spares carried on the exterior of the radio housing.
Weight of the set is 29 lbs. + Satchels Signals 5 lbs. Total 34 lbs.

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As the war progressed other manufacturers produced copies or improved models of the W.S. No.18.



Wireless Set No. 48 USA

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W.S. No.48 was a man pack transmitter receiver developed in about 1942.
Use: short range communication in forward areas within Infantry battalions and RA regiments.
Frequency 3.4-9.1 MHz
R/T and CW. MO control.
Range up to 10 miles.
USA development as an alternative to No. 18 Set.

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Wireless Set No. 58 Cdn

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W.S. No.58 was a man pack transceiver developed in 1943.
Use: short range communication in Infantry Battalion.
Frequency 6-9 MHz
R/T only.
Range up to 5 miles.
Canadian design as a replacement of No. 18 Set.

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Wireless Set No. 68P British

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W.S. No. 68P was a man pack transmitter/receiver developed in 1943 for Airborne Div, Para Bde, Comb Ops.
Use: short range communication in forward areas between Battalion HQ and Company HQ.
Frequency 1.75-2.9 MHz
R/T and CW.
Range up to 10 miles.
Set is similar to No. 18 Set but with different frequency range.
Wireless Set No. 68R
Wireless Set No. 68T
Same as above with a different Frequency 3-5.2 MHz

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Wireless Set 108 Australian

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The Wireless Set No.108 Australian was originally developed by Radio Corporation (Astor) in around 1940 and was the standard manpack set for providing communications between Battalion HQ and Company HQ. in forward areas during the Middle East campaign. By late 1941 the Mk.II version with a wider tuning range, had been introduced and remained the principal manpack until being replaced in 1946 by the Wireless Set No.128.
Frequency MkI 1940 8.5-8.9 Mhz
MkII 1941 6-9 MHz
MkIII 1943 2.5-3.5 MHz
Ranges up to 10 miles could be achieved using vertical antennas, the range largely depending on the type of country.



Ancillaries
Standard items with the above units could include Headphones, Hand microphone, throat microphone, morse key, a ground aerial with earth spike, Signals satchels, equipment spares and spare batteries.

W.S. No.18 Battle Battery Spare.
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To be con't
JC
 
Hello Mr Canuck.

Really enjoyed your wireless set information & photo's. I was wondering if you would be able to help me with my British Stuart M3A3 build. At the moment I'm detailing the turret interior, part of which is the rear turret radio set.
I used Information photo's of M3A3's from books & web to build the radio set. But after posting some pic's on the Armor forum, I think I may have put a US radio set in a British Tank. As the turret has a VHF arial I think I may have a new radio to put in..!

PZRWEST got me thinking that a British M3A3 woulld have a MK 19 radio in the back of the turret...!
Do you have any information or Photo's of the right radio set Please

Regards Gary
 
Well here goes, I stand to be corrected.

The W.S. No.19 was originally developed by the British for use in tanks, being a robust model it was very successful and ended up preforming many other Signals functions as a mobile unit in radio vans, command vehicles, ground stations etc after the addition of amplifiers and a host of other add-ons.

Typical AFV installation.

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For your purposes you want the basic W.S. No.19 Set, Receiver/Transmitter, Power Supply, Variometer, G rod aerial, 3-4 F rod aerials, aerial bases No.9 (G rod) and No.8 (F rods), control units, junctions and ancillaries headphones, microphones, plugs and wires etc.

W.S. No.19 Set containing A-set, B-set and IC amp.
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Power supply unit.
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Variometer for aerial tuning.
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Control unit for connecting headset/mic
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Junctions (Notice Female Quick Release Plug)
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G Rod Aerial 20"
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F Rod Aerials 50" (3 used 1 spare)
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Steel Case for Spare F Rods.
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Dogbone 12 Pin Connector.
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There are many variations and Mks for all the above items so don't expect to find uniformity with any of the W.S. No.19's.


Below are a number of extra items that would be used with the set.


Spare Valves and Spare Parts Cases.
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Headphones and Hand Held Microphone. Plugs are not Quick Release.
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Headphones and Tannoy Hand Held Microphone with Male Quick Release.
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Male QR
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Canvas WS Cover.
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Brush Guard (you only need 2 lower left units and the variometer above left unit.)
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There are also numerous leads and wires of very specific length to connect aerials etc.


Here are some drawings of installations in British AFV, none are M3 or M5 but the principals are the same, just less junctions.


Infantry Tank (Matida, Valentine, Churchill).
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M4 Sherman
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Weights and Dimensions
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Facilities provided by a Complete Station.
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Confused.................... really eh?!


JC
 
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Mr Canuck.

Thank you, totally blown away with the information & photo's. Really helps me out with the radio re-build.........Just need to work out how to cut the old one out now.....!

Big thank you Canadian's.

Cheers Gary
 
Here's the layout of the WS No.19 aerials and mounts on an M4 Sherman with the 1/6th scale bases from Armorpax and some actual bases.

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'A' Set Long Range
The Aerial base No.10 is the later version, on the No.8 the movement of the aerial in transit weakened or often broke the spring clamp it was replaced by the No.10 with the thumbscrew.
The Variometer was attached directly to the Aerial Base No.8/10 through the turret roof, a rubber seal would keep the elements out.

Aerial bases No.8 and 10 accepted 'F' Rods

Aerial Rod F No.1 (this is the base unit)
Overall length 49.5/8"
Butt end swaged down to 0.34" (varies slightly) for about 2" of bare
copper, then painted.
Top end 0.39" (-ish, measured over paint), rolled in thread 2.1/4 from tip.

Aerial Rod 'F' No.2 (middle section)

Overall length 49.5/8"
Butt end swaged down to 0.34" (varies slightly) for about 3" of bare
copper, then painted, last 1.3/8 inches are threaded.
Top end 0.270 o.d., rolled-in thread at about 2.1/4" from tip.

Aerial Rod 'F' No.3 (top section)

Overall length 49.5/8"
Butt end is swaged down to 0.218" from 0.25" for about 3.1/2" of
bare copper, last 1.1/2" has rolled thread.
This rod smoothly tapers to a closed end approximately 0.15" diameter

The full set of four rods will make a 4', 8', 12' or 16' whip, though
8' is about the limit for mobile use.

All the rods are the same length, regardless of existence of any rolled-in threaded part. There are
warnings about fitting non-threaded bases into threaded tops as this
may wreck the thread for future use. Threaded base into non-threaded
top is OK.



'B' Set Short Range Tank to Tank, I have heard that you were usually more successful yelling to the next tank than using the 'B' set WS.

Aerial mount No.9 was used with an Aerial Rod 'G' which was 24" long, the co-axial cable connecting it to the No.19 set was of a very specific length.
Some radio magic thing. The No.9 mount could be attached to a length of pipe to raise it above the 'clutter' on top of the tanks turret.

Aerial Base No.9

No.9 "cup" fitting, used with Aerial Base No.9, Mounting No.1, 2 or 3
on AFVs and other vehicles.

Aerial Base No.9, Mounting No.1 - short 'hollow pillar' mounting for
'B' set aerial base. Attaches to flat, horizontal surface (turret
roof, aerial bracket) by four bolts.

Aerial Base No.9, Mounting No.2 - taller 'hollow pillar' mounting for
'B' set aerial base. Attaches to flat, horizontal surface (turret
roof, aerial bracket) by four bolts. - for AFVs with cluttered roofs!

Aerial Base No.9, Mounting No.3 - VERY tall 'hollow pillar' mounting
for 'B' set aerial base.Made from duralumin tubing and with a rubber
base - 6 hole mounting with clamping ring.

Protector, Aerial Base No.9 "Halo" made from mild steel bar that
clamps around mounting No.1 or No.2. This is intended to limit the
travel of Aerial Base No.9 if the rod hits something - the top of the
base will contact the steel ring and the aerial rod will either bend
or break before the rubber insulator is ripped off.

No.9A is a No.9 on a big spring clamp. Used for truck and ground
stations, Jeeps, etc. Clamp allos it to by clipped to the canvas
support hoops, seat backs, or a handy post when static.


Aerial Rod 'G':
24" overall length, including 5/8" of 2 BA thread to fit the aerial base.
Actual length varies by about 1/4" in the examples I have.
1/4" diameter copper plated steel tube overpainted green or brown..



JC
 
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